Hey everybody it’s Erik Johnson from Arete
Throws Nation. In today’s YouTube video, what we’re going to talk about is
something that is so simple and it’s so overlooked and we’re going to talk
about how do we fly the discus? It’s so, so critical. It’s something you need to learn to do
and it makes a massive difference on your throwing performance super fast. So we’re going to go through
a couple of simple tips. We’re going to show you how to make sure
that you’re carrying the discus right, especially in the fingers so that
you can generate more velocity, more rotations per second. And the faster
that happens or the more that happens, the more you can get benefit
from higher rim weight discs, and you’re going to be able to spin the
discus which is going to keep it in the air and you’re going to throw farther. And
if he can’t fly, that discus right. It’s costing you distance. So
at any rate, let’s check it out. We’re going to go through it. All
right. So for today’s YouTube video, what we’re going to do is get a,
little more up close and personal, and I’m going to show you some different
things on how we are going to be holding that discus. So now one of the things that we do is
when we hold that and you’re going to notice when I’m going to show you this,
notice where the fingertips are. So the tendency is to basically
get the fingertips too gripped over. So you’re going to see a couple of things,
and again, a lot of people talk about how do
you grip the discus and what not. And I think they’re all
pretty much accurate. But the one thing that we’re going to
talk about is really where the discus placement goes. It doesn’t
go gripped over. And this is
one of the mistakes I see. So we’ll teach people to go two fingers
together and then what they’ll do is they’ll get the pinkies kind of here. So what that does is that tends to create
this kind of pulling effect instead of a clean finish where it’s going
to come off of the release finger, the index finger is the one we want.
We don’t want that finger. So here’s what we’re going to focus on.
We’ve got to get that nice spin. And so what we’re going to do is,
again, we’ve got to be in the fingertips, not in the knuckle joints, and we
certainly don’t want the pinkies over. This is what I tend to see a lot
of throwers doing. Back in the day. I got to be part of a
biomechanical analysis with
USA Track and Field back when I was throwing, back in the 90s and they
had some of the best throwers that time Adam Setliff, Anthony
Washington, John Godina, and I was lucky enough to be
in that study that stood out. And what they pointed out was that, the
use of wind was, how much of a factor is, it’s a very big factor in throwing. Now,
recently here at our club in Arizona, I have an athlete who’s transitioning
from the 1-6 to the 2K and one of the things we had kind of been,
you know, assuming he was 180 foot discus thrower
in high school and so he knew how to spin the discus. Now we’re moving to
the 2K, the thickness of the rim, the weight.
Obviously those things are different. And so it was really important and we
started to do that. We started noticing, you know, he’s in competition. We had two competitions under our belt
and by that third competition where like he’s not flying the discus
right. And so we had to go back, we made some adjustments in training
and within two training sessions, it was amazing the
difference in the distance. One of the things we
talk about for beginners, but this is also really good for
intermediate advanced throwers. You have to learn how to fly that discus.
It’s so again, one of the things we’re going to do is
we want to make sure we’re doing this. So as we do this, we want to make sure that we’re going
to be learning how to tilt the thumb and we’re going to notice how that we
get to the edge of the fingers here, up on the disk here. This is where
we’re seeing more and more kids do this. They’re getting that finger,
they’re getting into the joints. And so when you get the
fingers kind of here, you might have a good finger position,
but you’re going to be, when they come to release, you’re going to be more prone
to getting having the disc. It’s come off of those fingers as well.
It kind of comes off of here and it’s, this is too much. And so then you get
that big wobble. If the discus wobbles, it’s not spinning like super efficiently.
And so that means you can’t fly right. And you see discus is doing this.
The fluttering throw, Jason Harold, when he started with me
coming out of college, he had some definite aerodynamic issues
with his disc and that was a very early on focus for us was to get his
training dialled in for that. So one of the things we want
to make sure we’re doing, again as we look at and we’re
discussing where we’re holding the ring, we want to see this. We really want those two fingers together
because this teaches you and forces you to get this finger to come off the
index finger. When you’re like this, you can be prone to be this.
But here’s the trick. You got to make sure that you
don’t have the thumb here. The thumb has to be here. So when you’re looking at a
thrower and they have the hand, they have to have the hand here and the
fingers together and that pretty much ensures that it’s going to be coming
off of the tip of the discus this way. Now, you’ll notice when we get too much here
or we have the fingers spread apart and we’re in the knuckles.
That’s when we get that inconsistency. And one of the things that you’re going
to be doing is you’re not allowing that discus to sit optimally with
centripetal force when you’re winding. So when we’re here and we’re winding
the discus and we’re having that discus come out and around the discus, is pushing against the fingertips and
that’s why when we have this hand turned like this and the discus,
is pushing against this, it’s going to be more prone to be coming
off of this finger and not so much with the pinky. When that pinkies curled
around a little bit like this, that’s when you’re going to
really run into some problems. So one of the things we want to do
is just make sure that we’re really understanding how to properly hold
that discus because when you do this, that also lends to more cupping. Now there’s a point when the
discus should be down a touch, but when it’s cupped, that’s going
to be a problem. So watch that you’re not cupping the discus watch
that you don’t hold the discus because that leads to the carry versus
the drag and check out that video. That’s another video. But flying the
discus is one of those simple things. And if you’re looking to
pick up easy distance fast, messing with your release
is a tricky thing. It should only take maybe two
practices to start timing up. Just that change in carry that’s
going to lead to that big, that next 10-15 foot jump super fast.
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