Rotational Shot vs Discus | Avoid Common Technique Conflicts

Rotational Shot vs Discus | Avoid Common Technique Conflicts

Everybody in today’s YouTube video what we’re going to
discuss is the difference between the rotational shot and the discus. A couple of simple things you can
apply today that are going to help you make that better transition when you go
from one to the other or vice versa so you don’t get your rhythms confused
and you throw farther. Check it out. Everybody it’s Erik Johnson from Arete Throws
Nation. In today’s YouTube video, one of the things we’re going to be
talking about is rotational shot versus discus. Recently I had a video analysis submitted
and I thought this was going to be a really good YouTube video in a real
simple check in a video that I’m going to give to all my online members as well. When we talk about the difference between
the shot and the discus. The discus the implement is a way everything’s taller
and longer and we’re going to be kind of more in this position
when we throw. In the rotational shot we’re, bent a little bit more.
The knees are still forward. But what I talk about is
one key critical difference. So many young discus throwers or shot putters, if they’ve been throwing the discus
they’ll start rotational shot and they’re logically going to start throwing the
rotational shot like the discus. If they are shot, putter and then they are starting to do
the discus then they start to get into the discus and they’re doing motions
and movement, very much like the shot. Neither one will cross over very well. Sometimes you can get
away with certain things, but one is typically going
to be limited or both. So a real simple thing and a distinction
that we want to clear up for a lot of our rotational shop putters is
that when you start throwing, remember, the shoulders tend
to stay over the knees. And one of the things we’ve talked
about for years is as we get down, we’re more squatted and you’re going to
notice when I show you kind of that more squatted position, my knees
are still forward but [inaudible]
I’m avoiding this. We’re not squatting like this and we’re
not going to be out here where the legs are straight because if
I do that and I do this, I’m not going to be able
to get around that axis. So if you look at some throwers right
now that are throwing where you see more of this type of a motion, that’s what you’re going to notice is
really paramount to helping a lot of throwers throw far.
Now there’s a window. One of the things we talk about in the
throwing chain reaction system is that all throws and positions have windows. That means there’s a slice where you
move through, so you can have an angle that’s forward. You can have
an angle that’s too far backward. We don’t want to be too far backward,
we don’t want to be too far forward. You’re going to notice when
I show you too far forward. What did I change? My knees
too far backwards. Well, my
knees are in a good spot, but my shoulders aren’t going to
be able to come around the axis. When I’m here and I’m in the
shot and I’m too upright, I’m going to cut inside and so what we
wanting to do is we’re going to see the chest and we’re going to see the arm
coming around and you’re going to see how everything’s going to be moving
this way around the axis. Shoulders are a little bit more
forward and on top of the toes, and I’m creating rotation this way. What we’re going to see is
we’re going to see that. We’re going to be able to get around
that acts as a whole lot easier. So this is a super quick,
simple tip. How do you make a clear distinction
between rotational shot and discus? We want to see in the rotational shot, we want to see our chest a little bit
more forward and we’re in this type of wind range.
Again, a couple of videos of some of our elite
guys who were with Tyson Jones who was the high school leader in 2018
through 71 eight and three quarters. Let’s look at somebody like Darrell Hill
or Ryan Crouser. You’re going to notice again that more forward look.
Let’s look at our discus throwers. We’ll look at Arete Throws
Nation thrower, Jason Harrell. You’re going to notice that
he’s again more upright. If you look at somebody like Mason Finley,
again, you’re going to notice more upright. If you look at somebody like
Andrius Gudzius is very,
very vertical, more upright, and you’re going to notice
that different position. These are the core differences between
the shot in the disk and we want to help you. So one of the things
you want to check real quick, don’t be too upright
in the rotational shot. That usually is going to
come with consequences. You have to be able to move the implement
here around this axis and if you’re too hard, that’s harder to do and you most
likely are going to end up in trouble. If you’re looking to learn more about the
rotational throws or the glide shop in our link below, we have a free mini course
on each. Just requires name and email. Again, hopefully you found today’s
video helpful. If you liked it, be sure to give us a thumbs up, hit that subscribe button and
anything you’d like to see, please throw in the comments below
and we’ll be sure to get to that in an upcoming YouTube video and we will see you on the next one.

About the Author: Garret Beatty


  1. This is very good. I like it. You have best content on the youtube regarding discus and shot put.

  2. Thanks! I always thought that the Discus rotation was always more up right and the shotput rotation was down more but I just wasn't sure. I'm currently a freshman in high school. Right now my PR in shotput is 46'7, and I'm always looking for ways to improve. Thanks man, I think this will help me!

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